8.12.2008

Busy? No. Just Busy Whining.

A friend e-mailed today to ask if I have been busy, because I haven't been posting as much as usual. I'm still here, and it can be chalked up to busyness, at least in part. But I honestly, for the most part I have not had anything to say worth posting. It's summer, the kids are home so I don't have as much "quiet time" with my brain as I usually do. I also am being lazy, enjoying the last few weeks before 6 AM mornings are upon us again.

I have been around the blogs, trying to take more time than usual to interact and to care about what you all are writing rather than focusing on my own egotistical corner of the internet. I also have been training for the Portland to Coast, which is a scarce 9 days away.

I am also struggling again with wanting to get out in to the world instead of having my face pressed up against a screen for all my spiritual interaction. Not that I don't love you guys, because you know I do and you're my lifeline and my support group, but you all know what it's like to need face to face people to share spiritual life with, as well. I'm not up for church yet, I know that, and I find myself again tossing around the idea of starting an unchurch. But where to start eludes me. I'm an introvert, and a chickenshit one for that matter. I am broke and have no "core" group of people with whom to venture out. I am a lone ranger, I guess. What I really need right now is a chance...something, I don't even know what to ask for; something that nurtures me spiritually without fencing me in.

A few days ago a woman e-mailed me out of the blue. She found my blog via PDL and when she discovered we both live in Portland she asked if we could have coffee. I was thrilled at the prospect of meeting someone new from my neck of the woods, and said Yes! We discovered we're practically neighbors, so today we had that coffee right here, walking distance from my house, at the locally owned coffee shop. We sat for two hours, just chatting.

In the course of conversation, talking with someone new and sharing my journey, I listened to myself, and wondered if I'm bitter or if I really do want too much. Am I too picky? Is it all a pipe dream? I wonder, because in my head and heart, it all sounds so good, but said aloud, it just sounds like whining.

Why can't I just buck up and take the bull by the horns and not throw the baby out with the bathwater? Am I self-centered for wanting something that is more than a building once a week and a bunch of "How are you" 's from people who don't really care? Then, I'm just whining again.

But then, for me, for today, there was something real. Coffee and conversation with a person. That was all, but it was so much for me. That is what church is about. It's about being with people and sharing life. I need more of that.

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  1. "But then, for me, for today, there was something real. Coffee and conversation with a person. That was all, but it was so much for me"

    That was real church!! Awesome!

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  2. I am so "where you are" with these thoughts. Someone told me the other day that, based on reading my posts, it doesn't sound like I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater but it surely has felt that way to me many times. That hasn't been my goal. I've just wanted to find something real and tangible or at the very least something with truth and freedom. Refusing to settle for less has brought about the decision to stay apart from things for so long.

    I agree that real church is honest interaction that eludes anything the normal show can bring.

    Michelle

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  3. I still need to blog about this ...

    But we, Chris and I, have chosen to go back to the church we left behind. This decision is about doing what is best for the children. They are still there. They need our presence.

    It is interesting and really, quite fun, being there with a different mindset and no anger. God has worked on that anger issue with me. I am working really hard at it being more than just that once a week thing. For me, it is about being aware of people and taking action. For instance, taking the initiative to set up a coffee date, to send a note ... all the things I wish people had done for me when I was going through my season of Hell.

    The teaching is interesting and I don't always agree with what is being taught but I know that there is a sincere desire to serve God, to love God and to be the body of Christ. So, I keep my own mind renewed.

    If I keep going, i will have written that blog post. It is past time to wake the children ... Gotta run!

    Love you sister!!!!

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  4. Blogger just ate my giant big comment.

    I so don't think you are whining, Erin. I know it feels like it. Maybe you're just starting to sort the real from the counterfeit and ... sheesh, the counterfeit looks damn ugly, doesn't it :(

    I've been thinking the same as you the last few weeks, that I really want to find some believers to hang with in 3D. I think it's so great you caught up with this woman and had a coffee. Awesome! That is being church to me.

    You know, I think about the past 7 years and how I just would have gone insane if it wasn't for the net, for the conversations I've had with like-minded people that made me feel like maybe I wasn't being a rebellious Jezebel bitch for leaving the church building crap thang :) This is such a wonderful God-given medium. But it's just not the same (even though a lot of time it's better than face to face, less messy, less fear-inducing. A combo of both would be wonderful).

    There is a Christian meditation group in the next suburb from me. I've been meaning to call them for ages. I think I shall :)

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  5. "That is what church is about."

    Exactly. Or maybe I should say, "Amen, sister!" ;o)

    No, I don't think you're whining either. I do understand the need to get out and be with real people rather than words on a screen, though. Maybe we should set up a commune on neutral ground somewhere - perhaps a ship in the middle of the Atlantic? ;o)

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  6. You're not a whiner, Erin, just a genuine seeker. I can smell the difference between the two a mile away. Keep on seeking!

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  7. Erin, Coffee and conversation with a genuine, in-the-flesh, like-minded soul ... what I wouldn't give for one of those! It may be whining, but sometimes whining just lets us know there's still something out there we're looking for. Keep looking ... hopefully we'll find it eventually (or make it happen, despite our introversion, etc.).

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  8. Mike - It felt like it. Something all my years of church were missing, real church.

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  9. Michelle - "Refusing to settle for less"...exactly. I don't know if my idealized version of spiritual community is achievable or not, so I wonder how long I should wait. But I know right now I'm still waiting.

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  10. Cynthia - I wish you the best in your return. That would be so hard for me, but I would venture a guess God has brought you to a place of peace with it.

    I think what you said about being aware of people and taking action is so true. I think for me it's even about making sure my world doesn't consist solely of people from my church, but of real world people.

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  11. Sue - Why oh why were you and I born in opposite corners of the planet? We could have some cool church!

    Yeah, the net has been the real lifeline for me...in the beginning when I was in sooooo much pain and trying to figure out how to deconstruct this mess, finding out I was far from the only one was salvation for me. Finding that there really are other ways to be a Christian, and that it's not either fundamentalism or the highway...that was so good for me.

    Go check out that place you mentioned. It can't hurt.

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  12. Barry - Can I get an Aaaa-MEN!!!?

    Yeah, a ship. But it really ought to be in the Pacific, because that's like 3 hours from my house. Or maybe it can just sail around and pick everyone up? But then we're teetering on the edge of a commune...

    Can't win, can we?

    I think some of both the online thing and the real life thing, finding a healthy balance...I wish it were easier to find these people who live around me, though. I know they are out there.

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  13. Thank you, Tracy. You're so nice to say I'm not a whiner, even if I am. ;-)

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  14. Maria - "Or make it happen despite our introversion" ain't that the truth! I think the day will come...God can't leave us all wandering around out in the wilderness forever.

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  15. Erin,

    Your post here gave me drive for some reason to finish one that I had been wanting to get out for weeks now but just couldn't get it out the way I wanted to. Thanks!

    HERE

    Hang in there - if there's hope for me, there's hope for us all. And I don't mean hope that everyone will land back in a church building; but that our searches will bring about things that have meaning to each of us. Your new friend has great meaning to you now. The tides will shift and that will grow or change but what will come will also be what you need at the moment.

    Michelle

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  16. Thanks for posting that, Michelle. I read it right away but haven't had time to comment yet. I will.

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  17. it's good to know i'm not the only one who's being tapped and prodded with the question. what now?

    and i'm not going to let you off the hook that easy. as much as we bloggers ARE seekers, we are also very good whiners. very good at sitting around and pointing out others' faults and how WE would do church oh so different if WE ran the zoo.

    but we don't, really.

    i didn't say it at the time, but the troll you had a couple of months ago raised an awfully good question. would we be happy anywhere? that's not to say this person wasn't a dick. but, at the same time, it is a question i have wrestled with on my own before then.

    often times if you need something that just doesn't exist, you need to find a way to bring it to life. with god's help of course. (unless the lord builds the house...) i have thoughts on this, like the ever popular where do i start?, but this is enough for now, i am sure.

    much love.

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  18. Hey Erin,
    I'm right there in the mix with you. Wanting more, tired of online social life, but holding onto it like it's my last chance at life. Being a stay at home mom, I find that it's my one and only outlet right now, but it's meeting a need for a time. It's just that I wonder, in the back of my head, if all you people out there aren't all a figment of my imagination. Maybe I'm in my own version of The Truman Show; and you're really all out there just laughing at my poor pitiful self, imagining a "real" social life. THERE. How's that for whining!?

    Hoping and believing that somewhere along the way, Papa will bring a real live, breathing person my way to relate with. Meanwhile, my husband's stuck, out of "church" life (yeah, I guess we officially stopped going), and probably wondering what the hell to do with his psycho wife who's still questioning her roots. Sigh... I guess I wasn't done yet.

    Anyways, I think I understand, your struggle. In some sick way, it makes me feel like I'm not alone.

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  19. I've been asking myself (er whining)
    "why can't I just be normal".

    glad you found a nearby friend. :)

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  20. Jon - LOL. You? Let me off easy? Never!

    I think you need to write a program for all of us to follow about how to start new churches since the existing ones suck.

    I'm kidding, of course. I know I'm a good whiner, in spite of all these nice people who say otherwise, and I don't know if I would be happy anywhere. Well, I am happy to sit in my living room and complain. And I hate it. See my comment at Michelle's blog.

    So how to get out of the funk that says "these are all the things that are wrong" and move on to something productive?

    Maybe we are just a bunch of whiney-assed rebels. I don't know.

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  21. Thanks Rhonda. I'm not normal either. If that's some consolation.

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  22. do you have contact with other people at all? do you spend all day every day in front of the computer? for example, do you have employment and co-workers?

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  23. Jon - I'm a stay home mom, if that answers your question.

    Yes I do get out for dates with my friends....no I don't spend all day in front of the computer...but my kids would argue that fact.

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  24. I am catching up on old posts. So, If you reply, please do it on my blog, because I will never remember I asked this question. SO, do you feel compelled to go out into the world from inside? Or do you feel that you should because that is what "good christians" do?

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