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8.30.2007

Hahaaheeheehahoooo...


If you could see me now you'd see me laughing so hard I'm crying...thanks to Barry...

I now present to you...drumroll...

(and most of you really should take the times to watch this. I don't post vids often, but this is really worth it.)

Liberal Backslider by Martyn Joseph




What I Read Today


The iMonk Michael Spencer takes on CBD (I have edited out identifying information because I don't want to drive my hits this way):
"Dear CBD,

I just received your September-October 2007 catalog, and on the front cover, top of the first column, is the new book by [a certain mega-prosperity speaker with the initials J.O.], [insert title here]. Forty percent off. You obviously want a lot of people to buy it...I wonder if you have noticed that Mr. [O.] is not a teacher of the Gospel of Jesus, but a motivational speaker and the primary promoter of the American prosperity Gospel that is poisoning millions of minds all over the world?"

Paul Mayers asks:
"If you can be Jewish and a Christian can you not also be Muslim and a Christian?"
Jim points to Tina, who asks:
"Who is really responsible for “reaching the lost?” Isn’t it the Holy Spirit?"
And on a related note, Helen answers this question from Phil Johnson:
"Do most of those who identify with the Emerging/Emergent conversation seem to want to try to help you regain your faith, or would you say they spend more energy encouraging you to feel comfortable with your doubts?"
Zoe talks about Women and Spiritual Abuse Recovery:
"Here’s the thing. When it comes to recovery, when it comes to healing from spiritual abuse…the process can be delayed because not only has the woman who has been swallowed up in spiritual abuse already been broken down by the abuse, she is also broken down by the literal terminology, bible stories and demeaning gender rhetoric splashed her way in these churches, almost always from the men, quoting scripture, to support their dogma and their agenda, all in the name of, their God. She already is set up to believe she is to blame about most everything anyway. She often believes it’s her fault she was spiritually abused."
Heather on what bothers her about Worship:
"I just can't see Jesus being overcome by the obvious churchy display, and being happy with following those awful instructions - "Now we are going to enter into a time of worship" (because, you know, what we were doing before was just singing fast songs) "Everybody raise your hands" (because you obviously can't think for yourself) "Give God a big hand" (because of course the creator of the universe deserves a rock-star welcome)."
Glenn talks about Christianspeak:
"In other words, why not speak as though we were regular people and mere mortals?"

To Church or Not to Church, that is the Question


Yesterday, Grace posted about Wanting Answers:
"I have been pretty patient about this whole transition thing for quite a while now. The time that has passed has been useful and necessary for healing and detox. However, these are important years for us, and our family needs something more spiritual, real, and communal than what we have now."
Yeah. Us too. But what to do about it?

Last night my husband came home from work and wanted to take the kids to our CLB. I shuddered. The kids complained. I asked, "Why do they have to go to church? It's their last week of summer vacation."

My husband answered back with an "It will be good for them" statement.

Which quickly puts me on the defensive. So, then you’re saying not going to church is bad for them?, I wondered.

"Why will it be good for them? What will they get there that they don't get at home?", I asked. I was really thinking "I don't want my kids subjected to that conservative evangelical programmatic mega-church cattle drive, where the same kids are convinced week after week to make redundant decisions for Christ so that the numbers look good for HQ because it’s more about the head-counts than the individuals; where an average week moves 1000 K-5 kids through the system."

He.just.wants.the.kids.to.go.to.church. Period. I don't fault him for this, it's just who he is, he believes very strongly in the value of the typical traditional church model.

I, well, DON'T. At least not the CLB. Or any of its counterparts, for that matter. It’s not just a church-level issue I have. It’s a denominational issue.

It seems there is this ugly chasm that is developing between my husband and I. I simply don't know how to resolve this. I am railing against my children being poisoned by our CLB’s rhetoric…to become one of those "I'm a Christian, he's a Christian, she's a Christian, they are Christians, wouldn't you like to be a Christian, too?" pop-culture evangelists. I don't want them learning about the doctrine of Hell, because I know from experience that does nothing but create a horrifying dichotomy about the Love of God. I don't want them to learn about having a dualistic life - church/spiritual life vs. everything-else-life, I want them to grow up to be holistic. I want them to learn to hear the Spirit, think for themselves, understand that the Bible is alive and therefore our understanding of is it always changing, that we aren’t responsible for legislating morality. I want them to know how to impact the world by Jesus' example, be kind and loving and generous, not because they are supposed to be but because Jesus is so alive in them.

I’m not completely opposed to returning to church at this point. But I won’t go to the wrong place simply to go. I don’t believe going to the wrong church is better than no church at all, any more than I believe when we are ill the wrong medicine is better than no medicine at all. In fact, it will likely only make us sicker. And I won't inflict that on my children. They know Jesus, we try to live Jesus in our home and in our lives.

All I can think of is the years I worked as a teller in a bank. When I started, it was a nice regional bank that cared about it's customers. We worked hard to make them happy, we made exceptions for people, we resolved issues, we took good care of them, we presented them with options, and never tried to sell them anything. I loved it, because the customers were happy.

My third year there, we were bought out by a national mega-bank, and things went to hell real quickly. Suddenly it wasn't about making anyone happy, except the bank’s bottom-line. The pressure to cross-sell, evangelize, if you will, was enormous. We took classes, all-day classes, sometimes all-week classes, on how to evangelize. We had to start cold-calling our customers, trying to sell them services they hadn’t inquired about. Our reviews and raises were dependent on how many people we sold services (they already had somewhere else or they didn't really need, but that generated revenue) to. If we didn't evangelize enough, we could lose our job. I hated it. I HATED it. Every step we took was about generating money and customers. We didn’t care one stinkin’ bit about the person; we only cared if there was something in it for “us” (“us” being the bank). It was all about the bottom line, we were servants of the bottom line. Lucky for me, or actually, thanks be to God, our financial situation changed about a year after that, and I left the bank.

That's what I DON'T want in a church...a bottom line. Whether that line is money, or souls won, or the republican agenda, or church attendance, I don't want it, I won't serve it. I want a place where I can be and allow Jesus to be in me, whatever that looks like. The only bottom line I want is Jesus; so I will continue looking for a place like that.

I just don't know what to do in the meantime. Let my husband take them to church? Start actively pursue finding a church as a family? Wait for God to direct us?

Yeah, the problem with waiting, is, like Grace said, it's taking too long! Let's get on with it!

8.28.2007

Thanks to EVERYONE!


We are so overwhelmed - floored, really - by the response to the Prayer Synchroblog - we had no idea so many people would want to talk about it. We have added a few more posts to the list today, so be sure to check it out to see if you missed any that you would like to read.

I have moved the list of links because it became so long. It can be now be found HERE. Cindy has also posted a list, complete with quotes. It can be found here.

I spent all day yesterday reading all the posts, and I cried more than a few times. I have been so encouraged and touched by the amazing thoughts you guys have shared. Prayer has been quite an issue for me in the last several years and I found some real healing in some of the things I read. I was emotionally drained by the end of the day, but in a good way, and I'm still processing.

Most amazing to me is the transparency and the community of support. So many of you bared your souls on this subject and all the comments have been so encouraging. I love reading the interaction and the ways in which everyone has been so kind to, and supportive of, each other.

Lyn, Cindy and I have some overlap in our blogging circles, but we also each *know* people that the other two don't. So I have really enjoyed *meeting* some bloggers that I haven't known before, and I added you to my reader so I can continue to know you.

The three of us are planning to work on writing some reflections from this experience, hopefully sometime later this week, so watch this space for that.

Thank you all who commented her for keeping it mature and for encouraging me as I stepped out on a limb.

And again, thank you so much for all of you who were willing to participate. This has been beautiful and life-changing experience.

Prayer Synchroblog: Links


A comprehensive list of everyone who participated in the Prayer Synchroblog of August 2007, continually updated.

Participants: please check your name, blog name, post title and post link and let me know if there are any errors.

Sorted by Author

Alan Knox - The Assembling of the Church - Pray without Ceasing
Alex - Deconstructed Christian - Prayer Synchroblog II
Andy - A Mile From the Beach - How Do I Pray
Barb - A Former Leader's Journey - Prayer Without Throwing Things
Barbara Legere - Prodigal Daughter - How to Not Pray
Barry Taylor - Honest Faith - Synchroblog: How Do You Pray?
Brother Maynard - Subversive Influence - Fear Not the Silence
Che Vachon - ThisStream - My Thoughts...
Cindy Bryan - Run With It - Teach Me to Pray...Again?
Cynthia Clack - A Life Profound - How Do I Pray
Deb - Another Unfinished Symphony - Prayer Synchroblog
Doug Jones - Perigrinatio - How I Pray
Erin Word - Decompressing Faith - Prayer=Sex with God
Glenn Hagar - Re-Dreaming the Dream - Prayer Phases
Grace - Emerging Grace - Clearance Sale on Intercession Books
Heather - Deconstructed Christian - Synchroblog Prayer
Jim Lehmer - Lord I Believe, Please Help My Unbelief - Synchroblog: How Do You Pray?
John Smulo - SmuloSpace - Praying Naturally
Jon Hallewell - Life-Shaped Faith - When I'm Spoken To
Jon Peres - Something Else - How Do I Pray?
Jonathan Brink - Missio Dei - Posture: Sitting With My Daddy
Joy - My Emerging Faith - Synchroblog: Prayer
Julie Clawson - One Hand Clapping - Prayer Synchroblog
Larry - Last Exit Before Oblivion - Prayer is Weird
Lew A - The Pursuit - How Do You Pray? Synchroblog
Lydia - The Nunnery - How Do You Pray
Lyn Hallewell - Beyond the 4 Walls - God, Prayer and Me
Makeesha Fisher - Swinging from the Vine - The Mystery of Prayer
Mary - One Thing is Needed - How Do I Pray?
Nate Peres - Defined - How Do I Pray?
Pam Hogeweide - How God Messed up my Religion - The Art of Blue Tape Spirituality
Patti Blount - Here Comes the Groom - How Do I Pray
Paul Mayers - One for the Road - Praying and Learning to Pray Again
Paul Walker - Out of the Cocoon - One Congregation Experiments with Emerging Prayer
Rachel Warwick - Not Where Next but Where Now - How Do You Pray?
Rhonda Mitchell - Rhonda's Blog - Prayer SynchroBlog
Rick Meigs - The Blind Beggar - Prayer Helps that Get Me Deeper
Rick Stilwell - Mmm...That's Good Coffee - Push
Rob McAlpine - RobbyMac - Synchro-Prayer
Sonja Andrews - Calacirian - The Appearance of Holiness
Susan Barnes - A Booklook - Synchroblog: How Do You Pray?

Sorted by Blog Title

A Booklook - Susan Barnes - Synchroblog: How Do You Pray?
A Former Leader's Journey - Barb - Prayer Without Throwing Things
A Life Profound - Cynthia Clack - How Do I Pray
A Mile From the Beach - Andy - How Do I Pray
Another Unfinished Symphony - Deb - Prayer Synchroblog
Beyond the 4 Walls - Lyn Hallewell - God, Prayer and Me
Calacirian - Sonja Andrews - The Appearance of Holiness
Decompressing Faith - Erin Word - Prayer=Sex with God
Deconstructed Christian - Alex - Prayer Synchroblog II
Deconstructed Christian - Heather - Synchroblog Prayer
Defined - Nate Peres - How Do I Pray?
Emerging Grace - Grace - Clearance Sale on Intercession Books
Here Comes the Groom - Patti Blount - How Do I Pray
Honest Faith - Barry Taylor - Synchroblog: How Do You Pray?
How God Messed up my Religion - Pam Hogeweide - The Art of Blue Tape Spirituality
Last Exit Before Oblivion - Larry - Prayer is Weird
Life-Shaped Faith - Jon Hallewell - When I'm Spoken To
Lord I Believe, Please Help My Unbelief - Jim Lehmer - Synchroblog: How Do You Pray?
Missio Dei - Jonathan Brink - Posture: Sitting With My Daddy
Mmm...That's Good Coffee - Rick Stilwell - Push
My Emerging Faith - Joy - Synchroblog: Prayer
Not Where Next but Where Now - Rachel Warwick - How Do You Pray?
One for the Road - Paul Mayers - Praying and Learning to Pray Again
One Hand Clapping - Julie Clawson - Prayer Synchroblog
One Thing is Needed - Mary - How Do I Pray?
Out of the Cocoon - Paul Walker - One Congregation Experimets with Emerging Prayer
Perigrinatio - Doug Jones - How I Pray
Prodigal Daughter - Barbara Legere - How to Not Pray
Re-Dreaming the Dream - Glenn Hagar - Prayer Phases
Rhonda's Blog - Rhonda Mitchell - Prayer SynchroBlog
RobbyMac - Rob McAlpine - Synchro-Prayer
Run With It - Cindy Bryan - Teach Me to Pray...Again?
SmuloSpace - John Smulo - Praying Naturally
Something Else - Jon Peres - How Do I Pray?
Subversive Influence - Brother Maynard - Fear Not the Silence
Swinging from the Vine - Makeesha Fisher - The Mystery of Prayer
The Assembling of the Church - Alan Knox - Pray without Ceasing
The Blind Beggar - Rick Meigs - Prayer Helps that Get Me Deeper
The Nunnery - Lydia - How Do You Pray
The Pursuit - Lew A - How Do You Pray? Synchroblog
ThisStream - Che Vachon - My Thoughts...

8.26.2007

Synchroblog: Prayer=Sex With God



Disclaimer: This is probably the most transparent post I have ever written, and as such, it is rated PG-13 and may not be appropriate for all audiences.

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I am passionate about prayer; there is nothing more awesome, more amazing, more fulfilling, more intimate. In it's most natural and most powerful state, it is beautiful and raw, unrefined.

If our relationship with God is likened to earthly marriage, prayer is akin to sex in that earthly marriage, and we know sex is the most intimate earthly union between two people. So, prayer is like spiritual sex with God. (And yes guys, God is genderless, a Power, not a Person, so don't get too heebie-jeebie about that.)

But in order to have sex, you have to get naked, wrinkles and cellulite and all. In fact, in all honestly, prayer is like sex with God with the lights on. So often we are afraid to let God truly "see us" because He might think we are ugly, and leave without even so much as having a cigarette. Even Adam and Eve feared being naked before God.

It's easy to talk with God when we are feeling good about ourselves, feeling sexy and healthy. Something we often miss, and I'm convinced it is key to true communion with God, is praying when we really don't want to draw God's attention to our imperfections - when we are in sin, feeling guilty or ashamed, feeling ugly, feeling fat. If we don't pray when we don't want God to see us, we do two things: a) we perpetuate a sense of shame before God that began in the garden, and b) perpetuate a disbelief in God's unconditional love.

When we think we can hide any part of ourselves from the Great I Am, when we think that His love is dependent on our actions - even for one second - when we let our spirituality function in a place of shame, even for a moment, we will begin to doubt God's ability to love us.

This is where Adam and Eve (whether you view the story as literal or metaphorical) messed up. Not that they sinned, but that they thought they needed to hide it. Not that they disobeyed God, but that they believed His love was conditional on their obedience. Rather than simply being honest with God, they first hid their actions, then they made excuses for their actions. I believe their total misjudgment of God's character was the true problem, their sin of doubt is what separated mankind from God.

I follow God simply because even in my deepest, darkest humanity, He has never left me. Even in my promiscuous years, I could talk to God while having sex with a relative stranger, saying "OK, God, I don't know why the hell I'm doing this, but here I am", and hear Him say "And I am with you". Even in a a friends apartment getting completely drunk, you could hear me say, "OK God, don't let me crash my car on the way home, or at least don't let me kill anyone. Please. Thank You". And hear Him say, "Still, I am with you". Even during the night when one of my best friends was cheating on her husband and I could have stopped her but chose not to, I was saying to God "She has a crappy marriage, who am I to judge?" and hear Him say, "I am still with you." Whatever you might think about my behavior or prayers in these situations, the point is not what I said but the fact that I prayed at all.

I'm not prescribing a formula. I'm not saying that as long as we "talk" to God in our sin, it doesn't matter what we do. Our actions still have unpredictable earthly consequences. My drinking as a teenager caused me to make a number of terrible decisions, however, I am choosing not to go so deep as to get into my personal consequences in this post.

I AM saying our willingness to be naked, and to be honest in our nakedness (to have the "lights on"), prevents our sin from having spiritual consequences. God doesn't punish us for our mistakes, we do a damned well enough job of that ourselves. When we are ashamed, we hide from God, we roll over and pull the covers up, hoping He won't notice that we are hiding. When He calls us on it, when he turns on the lights, we will blame others, make up excuses or simply walk away, ashamed of our ugly. Thing is, this behavior simply leads us to believe that God can't handle our nakedness. Then we begin to feel shame. Then we begin to doubt.

Prayer is the natural product of a love affair. It is having confidence in the strength of that love to the point that I no longer fear it can be broken for any reason. Even when having sex with the lights on, God won't be turned off by my imperfections.

Only in my nakedness will I become united with God.

After all, you can't have an intimate marriage without sex.




Please visit the many other "How Do You Pray" Synchroblog participants. The list can be found HERE.


Synchroblog: Reminder


Tomorrow marks the "How Do You Pray" Synchroblog. While we are asking you to post on Monday if possible, we completely understand if it is more convenient for you to post today or Tuesday. Just be sure to let us know if you plan to participate; if you haven't already. We just want to be certain to get everyone on the link list I will be compiling.

Have a great day! Off to posting I go!


8.24.2007

Well, duh, people!


Don't you know? That's where God lives!


From Wired News:

Astronomers Find a Hole in the Universe


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Astronomers have stumbled upon a tremendous hole in the universe. That's got them scratching their heads about what's just not there. The cosmic blank spot has no stray stars, no galaxies, no sucking black holes, not even mysterious dark matter. It is 1 billion light years across of nothing. That's an expanse of nearly 6 billion trillion miles of emptiness, a University of Minnesota team announced Thursday.

Some quotes from the article:

"It looks like something to be taken seriously," said Brent Tully, a University of Hawaii astronomer who wasn't part of this research but studies the void closer to Earth.

And
Retired NASA astronomer Steve Maran said of the discovery: "This is incredibly important for something where there is nothing to it.
That's what happens when you let scientists be in charge. The silly's...they want a logical explanation for everything.


8.23.2007

Whatnot


I have five "I" statements for you:

1) I added a new page element at the top, yeah up there ^, for special notes and news and whatever I want to say but don't want to devote an entire post to or don't want to get lost in the shuffle. Oh yeah, and I moved the Background Switcher to the bottom.

2) I went to The God Journey forums today for the first time (HT Jeff at Under the Grace)- don't know WHY I didn't know about that, and whaddya know, some of my friends are there. You know who you are...why did you never tell me about this! LOL! I've been reading and listening to Wayne for almost 2 years, and somehow I missed it. Cause I'm a blonde, I guess. Duh.

3) I'm working on building a link blog. Yeah, I read so many blogs they need a blog of their own, LOL. (See my comment on this post at John Smulo's place...I don't have a problem. Really.) Seriously, I wanted a space where I can a) compile a list of all the blogs I read, b) compile a list of my favorite links that aren't blogs, c) tell you about them from time to time and d) not bore my faithful readers with my drivel unless they choose to be bored. After a month of research and playing around with various social bookmarking sites and such, I landed on this idea. BTW, this is mostly going to be for blogs and sites that I DON'T interact with/on, but think are interesting, weird or useful. So if you are my friend, don't for one minute think you are being sent away to the boonies...see #4.

4) I also created a link list of Friends in the sidebar over there <--- I'm sorry, I just hadn't gotten around to doing that since my template upgrade. The list may not be complete, so if you think yourself or someone else is missing, please let me know. Anyone who comments here or whose blog I comment on is a Friend. As long as you're nice to me. 5) I'm going to bed now. Have a great night, or day, as it may be.

8.22.2007

Synchroblog : How Do You Pray?


Lyn Hallewell posted yesterday about emerging prayer. After some conversation in the comments, Lyn, Cindy Bryan and I decided the subject would make a great Synchroblog.

So here's what we're proposing: we want YOU to post for this Synchroblog on Monday, August 27th. Anyone and everyone who wants to participate is invited.

If you plan to participate, please let us know in the comments here at this post, or at Lyn's or Cindy's blogs. When you have completed your Synchroblog post, please provide us with the link to your post. I will compile all the links when everyone has posted.

This is a wide open subject and we are interested in what everyone has to say.

Now there are some people I would like to specifically invite:

Gary
Barbara
Che
Barry
Pam
Nate
Jon
Cynthia
Rhonda
Heather
Joy

And anyone else who would like to write on this subject.

So that's Monday August 27th! If you want to post on Sunday evening, that's cool, too. Just remember to provide us with the link once you have posted.

Be there!

8.20.2007

Blogger Issues


Blogger had a "scheduled outage" today at 4 PM PDT for maintenance. Ever since, I have been unable to comment or respond to comments - barely able to login at all. According to the Google Blogger Help Group, I am far from the only one.

I can get into my Dashboard intermittently, but if I don't respond to your comments, it's simply a technical issue.

How to be Gracious?


For those of you de-churched people, I have a question for you.

How do you respond to people who invite you to church? Several people have asked me recently, primarily from my CLB. I have been searching for a gracious answer, and have yet to find one. I know they only ask because they care about my spiritual well-being or my lack of community, and they truly believe my return to church is the reasonable answer to those things. I don't fault them for that. It's simply perspective.

Sometimes I feel as though people fear I have become an agnostic or an atheist, no matter how many times I tell them I still follow Jesus. I know it's difficult for someone who believes all good Christians go to church to understand how I could still be a Christian.

However, I tire of trying to explain why I have no inclination to go back, in a way that doens't seem bitter or condescending (because I'm not). "Thanks for the invite, but..." or "I'm sorry, but..." don't seem to cut it. Keeping it too simple seems unappreciative, and I do appreciate that they care enough to try. What I want is an explanation for my position that someone could actually understand.

I don't want to hurt these people who care about me, so I'm wondering if any of you have any thoughts?



P.S. Pam and Donna - I DON'T mean you. I know you understand where I'm at.

8.18.2007

Personality Poll


EDIT: Grace is compiling a master list. If you want to be included, leave her a comment.


EDIT:
It appears the polls widget in Blogger is still VERY beta. So if in my poll widget you get an error message that says "Oops - polls are unavailable right now", just reload the page a time or two, or try back a little later. A complete reload might help, too - CTRL+Shift+R or CTRL+F5 on a PC - not sure on a Mac. This reloads the page in it's entirely, not just from cache (which is what usually happens when you reload a page). In any case, let me know in the comments that you voted and what you voted, so we can at least keep track that way.



The Personality Profile has been going around, and I was wondering if you will all play a game with me, just to satisfy my curiosity.

In the sidebar I've added a Poll for personality types. I am just wondering how the types among the bloggers I know measure up to society as a whole. I'll leave the poll open for awhile, like a month, but the sooner you play, the better.

Here's how the types add up in the general population, as percentages, according to Myers Briggs:

ISFJ 13.8
ESFJ 12.3
ISTJ 11.6
ISFP 8.8
ESTJ 8.7
ESFP 8.5
ENFP 8.1
ISTP 5.4
INFP 4.4
ESTP 4.3
INTP 3.3
ENTP 3.2
ENFJ 2.5
INTJ 2.1
ENTJ 1.8
INFJ 1.5

8.17.2007

Caring for Your Inner Pharisee


phar-i-see [far-us-see] - noun
1. a member of a Jewish sect that flourished during the 1st century B.C. and 1st century A.D. and that differed from the Sadducees chiefly in its strict observance of religious ceremonies and practices, adherence to oral laws and traditions, and belief in an afterlife and the coming of a Messiah.
2. (lowercase) a sanctimonious, self-righteous, or hypocritical person.
The Apostle (St.) Paul was a Pharisee of high regard (then known as Saul) prior to his encounter with Jesus. At that time, a Pharisee was a respected and educated Jew who held to strict observance and enforcement of external piety - ritual, law and right belief - often without regard to the condition of the soul. Prior to Jesus, being a Pharisee was a good thing. However, Jesus is frequently seen in the New Testament admonishing the Pharisees for their judgementalism. In kind, the Pharisees often persecuted those who did not agree with them, including Jesus' followers.

Generally today, we tend to see a pharisee as someone who is legalistic and self-righteous, and the label is considered to be an insult to most people. However, I tend to define "pharisee" in this much more simplistic manner:

a person who is absolutely certain they hold "right belief" on (a) matter(s) of faith, and who is unable to love those who believe differently from themselves.

Which would create a bit of a problem. If I believe I am entirely right about the priority of grace over works and I struggle to love a person because they believe the opposite, by my reasoning that would make me a pharisee.

In a recent post about inclusivity, John Smulo asks, "Is your embrace wide and warm and welcoming?" Among the comments (which were all outstanding) were the following:
Jamie A-R said, "I confess that, at times, my embrace is most challenged by the unforgiving, the self-righteous, the fundamentalist, etc."

I said, "I'm with Jamie - isn't it funny how those of us who are most inclusive still struggle to be inclusive of the most exclusive folks?"

NamelessFacelessLove said, "Erin and Jamie do indeed have a compelling point about our ability, while seeking to become inclusive, to deal with those who exclude us and others the most."

Brad Grinnen said, "I have a confession to make. I find that my embrace is warm and welcoming to everyone BUT the pharisee."
In the blog community I run in, I know many of us likely agree with Jim Henderson, who says "It's more important to be kind than to be right". That is to say, it's not wrong to be right, but it's wrong to elevate "rightness" over kindness. We emerging folk are good at being inclusive, conversational, non-judgemental - we prefer to be kind. We are not so good at loving those who prefer to be right.

How to love the person who places right-ness over kindness, or works over grace? These people are the antithesis of my faith, breaking my heart. I want so desperately to bring them over to my belief that "belief" isn't as important as love. However, then, am I not just as pharisaical as they are? I struggle to love them because they can't love others in spite of their differences. Doesn't that make me "self-righteous and hypocritical"? Shouldn't I be putting my money where my mouth is, or better yet, practice what I preach?

You follow?

I am uncertain how to avoid this trap. Once upon a time, I heard Beth Moore say something to the effect of, "Never argue with a Pharisee, you won't ever win". I can accept that. But I can choose to love a pharisee, to treat them with the same respect and grace as I treat all others, and not use their judgmentalism as an excuse to judge them.

So in spite of all my talk about "Love", I am not as good at is as I like to think. So often I am pushing this idea of unconditional love out towards the secular world (those whom a good pharisee will have the most trouble loving), but in all honesty I need even more desperately to turn it inwards, deep into Christianity - towards the most exclusive among us.

I try to look for the good and believe that there is a necessary place in Christendom for the modern-day pharisee. After all, God loves them, too.

Anyone have anything to add?

8.16.2007

Off-The-Map LIVE!


Just bought my ticket to Off-the-Map's conference, to be held Thursday November 1st through Saturday November 3rd, 2007. It will be at Eastside Foursquare Church in Bothell, Washington, a Seattle suburb.

Keynote speakers are BMac, Diana Butler Bass, and Jim Henderson, among others. Also I'm certain there will be some great breakout and workshop speakers, although haven't heard any details on who they are yet.

I'm not a conference girl. Been there done that, yadda yadda. But I went to this event last year thanks to Pam's invite, and it was like no other conference I'd ever been to. So I recommend it even for you "non-conference" people.

Last year I got a raging migraine on one of the days and turned into a prune for about 5 hours while my meds did their thing. Felt like I missed out an my ability to absorb anything during that time. Let's hope I can avoid that this year.

Anyone here planning to attend? Let me know - I'll look forward to meeting you.

8.12.2007

Synchroblog: The Politics of Love


For August 13/14, 2007 Synchroblog titled Christianity: Inclusive or Exclusive?

In this growing political season (in America), we are encouraged to define ourselves: Republican, Democrat, Independent, Conservative, Liberal...pro-this and anti-that...and we make those definitions based on what we believe are essential and important issues. Those issues help us decide where our voice will land come vote-day. Those issues are all-important, and without knowing where people stand on issues, we would not know how to vote. Philosophy is critical here.

Not so in the church. Because, like it or not, salvation is not a democracy.

This post could be about any of a number of issues in Christianity; I have chosen one to focus on.

There is always ongoing discussion in the emerging/missional/postmodern church about salvation; i.e. is it exclusive (only for the chosen saved), inclusive (all are saved by Christ whether they know it or not) or universal (all paths lead to God)? Last fall I was introduced to another bold option, the opt-out-ism which says we all are saved by grace unless we consciously reject that grace.

Once we have defined our soteriology (is that the right big word?), we can begin determining who is saved and who isn't, even among Christians. We will try to convert people to our perspectives, as if getting one more vote for exclusivity will win the war. We believe that God will change how He selects the chosen few by majority vote.

Unfortunately in the church, all too often we are taught we are to love everyone, but only as long as they are just like us. Only if they have not only the same religion we do, but also the same theology we do. Associating with people who don't "vote" the way we do might cause us to change our "vote" and sway the polls.

But seriously, is this a democracy? Does our theology really change anything? Do we get to vote on which theology, at the end of eternity, guarantees salvation? Whatever we believe, and we can defend it to the death, does what we believe about salvation change how God does business? If I believe in hell or not, if I argue with you about who might be going there in the end, does it have any impact on whether or not hell actually exists or anyone goes there?

Why then do we spend so much time arguing theology, as if it's the politics of eternity?

We tend to believe it's our theology that saves people. We argue for souls based on sacraments, baptism, atonement...but those things, whatever you believe, don't save. Jesus does. Whether or not Jesus saves only a few, many or all mankind isn't changed by our theology.

Well, if our purpose isn't getting people into our theological camp, what is it?

I have heard it said it is more important to be kind than to be right...because if you are not kind, you are not right. If this is true, maybe we could introduce many more people to Jesus with kindness and love than we presently do with theology. I think we ought to concern ourselves with what we CAN change, that is, getting people in the door. Not the door of a church, mind you, but the door of a life of love, with Jesus. And that happens with kindness. If loving others as we love ourselves is the true mandate, the gospel as Jesus reported it to be, then we are wasting our breath on these issues, breath we could be expending in conversation and relationship with those who haven't yet met Jesus at all.

Then simply let God take it from there.


Other Synchrobloggers on this topic (I will update links to the individual posts as they become available):

Sally Coleman
Julie Clawson
Mike Bursell
Sonja Andrews
Sam Norton
David Fisher
Cobus van Wyngaard
Steve Hayes
Jenelle D'Alessandro
John Smulo
Tim Abbott


Miscellany


Everyone else is doing this ....that's a good reason, right? So I'm going to go ahead and post this even though I don't think anyone really cares.

Click to view my Personality Profile page
"INFPs are introspective, private, creative and highly idealistic individuals that have a constant desire to be on a meaningful path. They are driven by their values and seek peace. Empathetic and compassionate, they want to help others and humanity as a whole. INFPs are imaginitive, artistic and often have a talent for language and writing. They can also be described as easygoing, selfless, guarded, adaptable, patient and loyal."
No big surprises there.

As for the Multiple Intelligences, pretty accurate too, although I think intrapersonal would be above naturalist. The musical part comes not from musical talent, but from the fact that music defines my life. So don't start thinking I can sing.

On another note, some excellent discussion about gender equality in the emerging church, first at Makeesha's blog, then at Julie's blog, then a good clarification follows at Makeesha's blog and an excellent expansion on the subject at Julie's blog. For the record, for those who might wonder, I only consider myself a feminist to the point of equality; I'm not looking for a matriarchal church.

Also, all my domains are finally working: erinword.com, decompressingfaith.com and decompressingfaith.blogspot.com, all with and without www. So now you have 6 ways to find me! I'm sure you're so excited.

Oh, one more thing, my friend Donna's father-in-law passed away the other day. Please pray for her and her husband during this time, and as they travel to be with the family.

8.10.2007

Turn Love Inside Out


Jim Palmer, author of Divine Nobodies, has a new (I think - or at least new to me) project called Turn Love Inside Out.

From the TLIO site:

"TURN LOVE INSIDE OUT is about harnessing the energies of LOVE. It is an effort to inspire people to use the most transformational power on earth: LOVE.

Consider this:
LOVE is the greatest single need and desire of humankind.
LOVE is the strongest power on earth for affecting every dimension of people’s lives.
LOVE is affirmed as the highest expression of humanity, religion, and spirituality.
LOVE is in abundant supply because all people are created in the image of Perfect Love.
LOVE must first be experienced within yourself before it is adequately expressed to another."


Of particular interest to me was this quote, taken from an interview with Jim on the TLIO blog:

"Jim, typically religious people seek to persuade others to their religion. For example, Christians seek to convert others to Christianity. It sounds like you however, want to convert people to love. Is that fair?

I capitalize the word ‘Love,’ because I view it as Ultimate Reality or God. Love is not some flighty, sentimental, self-focused human emotion. Love is the Creator and Source of all that is real. Humans were made in the image of Love, and so Love is the ground of our being, and our natural inheritance. When someone is awakened to Love, they are awakened to the most transformative reality there is. Its power heals, sets people free, makes whole, and puts one at deep peace and joy. Love is a spiritual reality within ourselves we can turn to in any moment. One way I experience it is a deep knowing that in every moment I am held in unconditional acceptance. When I allow myself to dwell there, all sense of separation from God is extinguished and I experience oneness with God. Free at last! Jesus prayed we would “experience” this oneness, and I am finding that Love is the doorway to it. I enjoy hiking, and often trails are marked by various color streaks on trees – red, blue, green, whatever. Likewise, the trail to God, in God, with God is marked by Love. As I convert the inner experience of Love into a life of being Love, I am one of those trees showing people the path to God, Ultimate Reality, and the only power on earth capable of transforming our inner being.

8.06.2007

Christians Confess


I was tagged today by John Smulo and I am more than happy to c