5.28.2006
Just Wondering...
But the show was talking about how Galileo was persecuted by the Catholic church for claiming that the earth revolved around the sun - or more specifically that the sun was the center of the universe. The Church insisted that this idea was contrary to the Bible and therefore heresy.
From Wikipedia:
"The so-called Galileo affair, in which Galileo Galilei came into conflict with the Catholic Church over his support of Copernican astronomy, is often considered a defining moment in the history of the relationship between religion and science.In 1610 Galileo published his Starry Messenger, describing the surprising observations that he had made with the new telescope. These and other discoveries exposed major difficulties with the understanding of the heavens that had been held since antiquity, and raised new interest in radical teachings such as the heliocentric theory of Copernicus. In reaction, many maintained that the motion of the Earth and immobility of the Sun were heretical, as they contradicted some accounts given in the Bible as understood at that time. This article treats of Galileo's part in the controversies over theology, astronomy, and philosophy, culminating in his trial and sentencing in 1633 on a grave suspicion of heresy."
It was also said in 1615 by Cardinal Robert Bellarmine that
"the heliocentric ideas were "a very dangerous thing, not only by irritating all the philosophers and scholastic theologians, but also by injuring our holy faith and rendering the Holy Scriptures false." Moreover, while the matter was not inherently a matter of faith, it became one "on the part of the ones who have spoken", namely "the holy Fathers and all the Latin and Greek commentators." He conceded that if there were positive proof, "then it would be necessary to proceed with great caution in explaining the passages of Scripture which seemed contrary, and we would rather have to say that we did not understand them than to say that something was false which has been demonstrated."In the end (emphasis mine):
"In modern terms, we consider Galileo's views on heliocentricity to be no fundamental advance. The Sun is no more the center of the universe than the Earth is (indeed, the question has no meaning, as apparently all locations can be equally regarded as the "center" of the universe). The Catholic Church held to the prevailing scientific opinion of the day, which was that the Earth was the center of the universe. Thus, for moderns, the key issue of this controversy was not the objective correctness of the theories being debated, but rather the morality of institutions (or persons) using physical force to shape acceptance of scientific beliefs."I just wonder ... after this (among other similar events), why is the church (not just the Catholic church but the church in general) remain so insistent that it is always right - even on scientific issues?
I think this is the point for me: the Church was using a widely accepted interpretation of Scripture to assert a scientific truth, and held that it was a Biblical impossibility that the earth revolved around the sun. Yet we all know today that this idea is ridiculous, and we have adjusted our view of scripture to, if not support, at least not to contradict this scientific concept. Do you know anyone today who still holds to the belief that the universe (or even solar system) is geo-centric, claiming that the Bible says so? I imagine some such people exist, but the generally held view today is that the solar system is heliocentric. Few Christians today will whip out their Bible and argue against this view.
These days, what scientific subjects is the Church using Biblical interpretation to disprove? Why does the Church still insist they know the scientific truth on some certain subjects, and claim they can prove it with scripture?
What about creation vs. evolution? What about the possibility that homosexuality is, in fact, genetic?
I know there are people who will not appreciate my saying so, but what issues might we someday know that the presently held scientific perspective was the truth and our presently held Biblical perspective was not the truth?
Just wondering.







