11.17.2006

Braveheart and Little Women


I apologize in advance for this.

PBS's Religion and Ethics Newsweekly reports on Men in Church. Some of my "favorite" quotes, in order but not necessarily contiguous:
"A darkened room. On the screen, a film about Scottish warriors. A movie theater? No. Try Sunday worship. This is the Grove Community Church in Peoria, Illinois, a self-described "men's church." Mark Doebler, the bongo-playing pastor, says Christian men have been "neutered."
I can hear the rush of testosterone now.
"We're not saying that we shouldn't be gentle and humble and serve people. But there's a flip side to that, which says we have to be aggressive in the world when it's appropriate. We are warriors.
Let's not put TOO much emphasis on being aggressive, please.
"I think it's really important to get the guys here because if you get the guys, you get the rest of the family.
Says who?
"Over the years there's been a gradual feminization of a lot of our practices. There's been an emphasis on relationships, nurturing, close-knit communities. Men are into challenge, adventure. Men, especially young men, like conflict and change, and these are the sorts of things that are downplayed in church today.
Speechless.
"The early Christian church was dominated by men.
Does that make it right?
"In other religions, men play a prominent, even dominant role. Christianity has been described as a case of male generals leading an army of women.
Lovely. Well, my combat boots are on.
"Women, by default of men's participation and leadership, have been forced into leadership, and they have simply created an environment that is friendly to them, and they don't understand why men don't want to draw into that.
Women? In Leadership? Where?
"It is so vitally important that men step up as leaders, as husbands, as fathers, and involved in the church itself in leadership positions.
Who is leading the church now if not men and not women?
"The real challenge here is not calling men back to the church. It's calling churches back to men. We need to create the types of experiences where men can come alive.
Aside from playing Braveheart in Church.

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And the clincher:
"Some mainline churches are starting to reassess their practices, asking, where have the men gone?"
Oh, they all went to have sexually satisfying conversations with their heterosexual male assistants.

It's just us submissive Little Women here.

*Sigh*

In light of recent events, I'm just a little testy and sarcastic about this....Oh wait, that's just hormones. Please excuse me, I need to adjust my panties. They seem to be twisted.

Anyone care to comment?




8 comments:

  1. unflippinbelievable.

    does God know about this, since I suspect the whole relationship-building-girly thing was his idea in the first place.

    men neutered? it is true that i have seen more women in church, in general, then men...but I hardly think this is because of the feminization of a Sunday service or church activity. The majority of the time a man is leading the service, and it is men who have created the Sunday production and men who, in general, also call the shots to church activities and all that jazz.

    No, can't blame us for this one, fellas. It must be something else that has guys wondering if church is too girly...I wonder if this sentiment comes from an identity crisis with manhood, seeing how fatherlessness is a huge epidemic for this generation. Could it be that men are wondering what it means to be a man, and therefore misinterpret spiritual practices as being unmanly?

    Well somebody tell Jesus, quick, 'cause he's the one who said things like Pray for your enemies,Bless those who curse you, Be a servant to all, Love God and one another, etc...he said all kinds of girly-kind of things.

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  2. Preach it sister!

    Amen.

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  3. ROFLOL! Thanks, Lily, for highlighting that church. I have been watching them for a couple of years now. Truly amazing, huh? Of course the problem must be women if men aren't coming to church. Goodness knows they couldn't blame the men or look at themselves. That would be the responsible, mature thing to do.

    I go to a church with all male leadership and at least half of the congegations of 1,000 people are men. I don't know what this guy is smoking but mark my words, they are going to put a corvette on one of those turn-table things in the lobby of their church and a pretty girl in a sexy dress who sits on the hood in order to draw in all the manly men.

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  4. Hi Corrie,

    Of course the problem is women? Didn't you know that? It's always our fault, because we are daughters of ever?

    Kidding of course.

    You crack me up with the Corvette and the chick. Maybe we need a feminist church with the ushers wearing S&M garb?

    Sorry, sometimes I blurt out what I think without thinking about it.

    ;-)

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  5. I meant 'daughters of eve' not 'ever'.

    Oops.

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  6. corrie, you're cracking me up!

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  7. Lily,
    Great post!

    I actually preached a "braveheart" type message on a Father's day once. I can't remember if it was dreadfully cliche.

    I think it was more along the line of what Pam discussed about men finding their identity in Christ in order to be the kind of men, husbands and fathers they were intended to be.

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  8. Thanks Grace! I love how you paraphrased Pam's thoughts, LOL.

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